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RE: Genre tag... disappeared - Gdg - 07-02-2026 23:09

No way, Simon. I removed minimServer instance, removed & reinstalled Jplay, and reconnected minimServer, but no luck.
Sorry


RE: Genre tag... disappeared - stefano_mbp - 08-02-2026 07:46

Are you sure genre tag is described in your indexTag ?


RE: Genre tag... disappeared - Gdg - 08-02-2026 12:40

Found the culprit.

I have 2 user tags:
. TOP
. COMPILATION
when I need (one or another or both) value is = 1 or the tag is not present.


This morning I made a clean MininServer 269 installation on my notebook windows.
I placed in a folder 3 albums:
. Archie Shepp-1964 Four For Trane (tagged as TOP=1)
. Ripple-1977 Sons Of The Gods (no tags)
. VV AA-2013 Natural Jazz Recordings (tagged COMPILATION=1)

Now, pay attention to this:
a)
with indexTags:
. COMPILATION=1:Compilation,TOP=1:Top,Artist:AlbumArtist,Genre,Date, #AudioQuality:Quality

JPLAY ouputs:
. Archie Shepp-1964 Four For Trane (TOP=1) => *NO Genre*
. Ripple-1977 Sons Of The Gods (no user tags) => *NO Genre*
. VV AA-2013 Natural Jazz Recordings (COMPILATION=1) => YES Genre (Jazz)

b)
with indexTags:
. TOP=1:Top,COMPILATION=1:Compilation,Artist:AlbumArtist,Genre,Date, #AudioQuality:Quality
i.e. inverted position of TOP with COMPILATION

JPLAY ouputs:
. Archie Shepp-1964 Four For Trane (TOP=1) => YES Genre (Jazz)
. Ripple-1977 Sons Of The Gods (no user tags) => *NO Genre*
. VV AA-2013 Natural Jazz Recordings (COMPILATION=1) => *NO Genre*

c)
with indexTags:
. Artist:AlbumArtist,Genre,Date, #AudioQuality:Quality
i.e. removed TOP & COMPILATION

JPLAY ouputs:
. Archie Shepp-1964 Four For Trane (TOP=1) => YES Genre (Jazz)
. Ripple-1977 Sons Of The Gods (no user tags) => YES Genre (Disco)
. VV AA-2013 Natural Jazz Recordings (COMPILATION=1) => YES Genre (Jazz)

with Linn IOS, same output as JPLAY



Hope all the above is clear enough

UPDATE
d)
with indexTags:
. Artist:AlbumArtist,Genre,Date,TOP=1:Top,COMPILATION=1:Compilation, #AudioQuality:Quality
i.e. changed position of both TOP & COMPILATION

JPLAY ouputs:
. Archie Shepp-1964 Four For Trane (TOP=1) => YES Genre (Jazz)
. Ripple-1977 Sons Of The Gods (no user tags) => YES Genre (Disco)
. VV AA-2013 Natural Jazz Recordings (COMPILATION=1) => YES Genre (Jazz)



RE: Genre tag... disappeared - simoncn - 08-02-2026 16:20

Thanks, this is very helpful. For a) and b), do you see the same issue with Linn iOS?


RE: Genre tag... disappeared - Gdg - 08-02-2026 16:52

(08-02-2026 16:20)simoncn Wrote:  Thanks, this is very helpful. For a) and b), do you see the same issue with Linn iOS?

Yes, same for Linn IOS, too.

The very simple rule to patch the isssue, is NOT to have an optional tag as 1st one in the indexTags list.


RE: Genre tag... disappeared - simoncn - 09-02-2026 21:27

I have found a problem in Minimserver update 269 that was causing incorrect metadata to be sent to the control point. For example, the genre might be missing. This doesn't explain why changing your indexTags settings is making a difference to whether or not you see the genre.

This problem is fixed in MinimServer update 270. Please install this update and let me know whether you are now seeing what you expect.


RE: Genre tag... disappeared - Gdg - 09-02-2026 22:27

Hi Simon.
Installed minimServer 270.
+Resumed indexTags order as pre-issue.
+Rescan
=Problem gone
Thank you very much.

By sake of completness, now I’m doin’ JPLAY Sync.
I’ll let you know if everything is ok with it.

‘night…


RE: Genre tag... disappeared - simoncn - 09-02-2026 22:42

Thanks for confirming the fix. My apologies for the inconvenience this problem has caused.


RE: Genre tag... disappeared - Gdg - 09-02-2026 23:48

Works fine with JPLAY, too.
‘night…


RE: Genre tag... disappeared - Gdg - 15-02-2026 22:21

Simon, another strange behaviour with my tags.

MinimServer 2.2 update 271.

Please read carefully, because it's a really strange one.

In my tagupdate.txt I have:

@OWNED=1
+GENRE=(owned)
+OWNEDLABEL=[OWNED]


this is my my indexTags:
OwnedLabel:Owned,Artist:AlbumArtist,Performer,Label,Genre,Date,Series,BoxSet
,Group,Comment,Composer, #AudioQuality:Quality, *RecentAdded, *RecentPlayed

it's like that for at least 6 months, so deeply tested.

This evening I found out that the "Owned" tag disappeare from the folder
navigation...

After some investigation, I modified the indexTags like this:

Owned=1:Owned2,OwnedLabel:Owned,Artist:AlbumArtist,Performer,Label,Ge
nre,Date,Series,BoxSet,Group,Comment,Composer, #AudioQuality:Quality,
*RecentAdded, *RecentPlayed

that is, I added a dummy tag (Owned2) as first.

Well, after the rescan, I could see both of the tags.

But I wasn't happy with that, so I removed the dummy tag (Owned2) and
rescanned, and...
the Owned was still there !

Couldn't beleave that... What's going on?

Ok, long story short: if I change the value of contentDir, the Owned tag
disapper again ...

What's happened is: on friday night I changed the regular entry point of my
music folder, from:

/share/Multimedia/Music/

to

/share/Multimedia/Music/test

and no more "Owned" tag.


To fix, I apply the dummy tag, rescan, remove the dummy tag, rescan, the
Owned will be in place again.

But If I change the root folder, the "Owned" tag will disappear again.

Hope all the above is clear enough...

-

Ah... tested with minimServer 267, 268, 271...
... and no matter the position inside the indexTags: tag disappeared
completely.


'night