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Can't read certain type of audio files - ima2gine - 11-03-2013 00:15

I've successfully installed Minimserver on my QNAP TS212 (with 2x 2T in Raid 1 format) and using Lumin as the AV control. Everything is perfrect execept I just can't read the normal 44.1/16 WAV files and MP3 even after repeated restart of Minimserver (or the NAS). The other types of file include AIFF, ALAC, DSF, AAC are all fine.

Wonder what should I do to deal with this situation.

Thanks in advance.


RE: Can't read certain type of audio files - simoncn - 11-03-2013 04:06

(11-03-2013 00:15)ima2gine Wrote:  I've successfully installed Minimserver on my QNAP TS212 (with 2x 2T in Raid 1 format) and using Lumin as the AV control. Everything is perfrect execept I just can't read the normal 44.1/16 WAV files and MP3 even after repeated restart of Minimserver (or the NAS). The other types of file include AIFF, ALAC, DSF, AAC are all fine.

Wonder what should I do to deal with this situation.

Thanks in advance.

Which renderer are you using to play these tracks?

Are you unable to see these tracks when browsing, or are you unable to select them for playing? Please describe the symptoms as fully as possible.

Can you try this with some other control point, such as Kinsky? Does this make any difference?


RE: Can't read certain type of audio files - ima2gine - 11-03-2013 05:42

(11-03-2013 04:06)simoncn Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 00:15)ima2gine Wrote:  I've successfully installed Minimserver on my QNAP TS212 (with 2x 2T in Raid 1 format) and using Lumin as the AV control. Everything is perfrect execept I just can't read the normal 44.1/16 WAV files and MP3 even after repeated restart of Minimserver (or the NAS). The other types of file include AIFF, ALAC, DSF, AAC are all fine.

Wonder what should I do to deal with this situation.

Thanks in advance.

Which renderer are you using to play these tracks?

Are you unable to see these tracks when browsing, or are you unable to select them for playing? Please describe the symptoms as fully as possible.

Can you try this with some other control point, such as Kinsky? Does this make any difference?

Thanks. The tracks are in the NAS but are not appeared in my Lumin Apps (for controlling Lumin). The tracks are simply missed in my Lumin Apps even after restarting Minimserver and updated library content.


RE: Can't read certain type of audio files - bbrip - 11-03-2013 11:04

Are you sure these files are properly tagged? LUMIN reads the tags, not folders. You mention WAV above. AFAIK WAV cannot store tags


RE: Can't read certain type of audio files - Peter@57m - 11-03-2013 11:16

I had my tracks saved as WAV and tagged using MediaMonkey. When I started using MinimServer, it was like you, to use it with Lumin. However Lumin does not read the tags on WAV files, so you don't see them.
If you use Kinsky you will see them, but depending how they have been tagged, some may not be as you expect them. I didn't have this issue with Twonky which I had been using.
So I decided to transfer all my WAV files to Flac, you can do this with MediaMonkey and I'm sure with many other programs.
I then cleaned up a few remaining tags which were not being read correctly.
I use the Wav24 option in MinimServer as I feel WAV arriving at my DS sounds better than Flac.
I have not come across any downside from doing changing the format, in fact many programs have better support for flac.
I am very pleased with MininServer and really like Lumin. I occasionally use Kinsky for stored playlists and for some custom tags. But Lumin is due to add some form of custom tag support so it will then be just playlists.
I suggest you keep using Lumin with the files that are there for a while to make sure it's the control point you want to use. If so, go ahead and convert the files.


RE: Can't read certain type of audio files - ima2gine - 11-03-2013 11:34

(11-03-2013 11:16)Peter@57m Wrote:  I had my tracks saved as WAV and tagged using MediaMonkey. When I started using MinimServer, it was like you, to use it with Lumin. However Lumin does not read the tags on WAV files, so you don't see them.
If you use Kinsky you will see them, but depending how they have been tagged, some may not be as you expect them. I didn't have this issue with Twonky which I had been using.
So I decided to transfer all my WAV files to Flac, you can do this with MediaMonkey and I'm sure with many other programs.
I then cleaned up a few remaining tags which were not being read correctly.
I use the Wav24 option in MinimServer as I feel WAV arriving at my DS sounds better than Flac.
I have not come across any downside from doing changing the format, in fact many programs have better support for flac.
I am very pleased with MininServer and really like Lumin. I occasionally use Kinsky for stored playlists and for some custom tags. But Lumin is due to add some form of custom tag support so it will then be just playlists.
I suggest you keep using Lumin with the files that are there for a while to make sure it's the control point you want to use. If so, go ahead and convert the files.

Thanks. Smile I guest I'll go for the "convert" option as my most of my audio files are in AIFF format and just few WAV files. Wonder whether similar issue will happen for DFF format?

I also found Lumin control point is good as a new comer to audio streaming.


RE: Can't read certain type of audio files - simoncn - 11-03-2013 11:50

(11-03-2013 05:42)ima2gine Wrote:  Thanks. The tracks are in the NAS but are not appeared in my Lumin Apps (for controlling Lumin). The tracks are simply missed in my Lumin Apps even after restarting Minimserver and updated library content.

Edit: I've now caught up with the recent discussion on this thread.

MinimServer doesn't read tags from WAV files because this isn't part of the WAV specification. For the same reason, MinimServer doesn't read tags from DFF files. MinimServer does read tags from DSF files.

MinimServer reads ID3v2 tags from MP3 files. It doesn't read ID3v1 tags. Is it possible that your MP3 files contain ID3v1 tags? If so, it's easy to convert these tags to ID3v2.