User interface translation

[simoncn]

MinimServer 2.0.12 has been released for all supported platforms (Synology, QNAP, Windows, Mac and Melco). This release supports translation of all user interface elements displayed in a UPnP control point (menu selections). Other aspects of the user interface such as MinimWatch and the configuration web pages are still in English only.

User interface translations are currently available for English, French, German, Japanese, Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese. You can customize MinimServer's translations for these languages and you can add your own translations for other languages. For details, see this section.

[BB1]

As a native German speaker, I’d like to make a few suggestions regarding the German localisation.

Code:

text.disc = Scheibe {0,number,#}

The German translation for "compact disc" is "Compact Disc". Hence I’d replace "Scheibe" with "Disc". "Scheibe" is only used colloquially if talking about a CD or LP.

Code:

tag.bpm = Schlägen pro Minute

Should be "Schläge pro Minute", but BPM is a well known unit in Germany as well.

Code:

text.none_of_above = [nichts von oben]

I’m not sure in what context this is being used in MiminServer, but if is similar to an answer option in a multiple-choice question, I’d suggest "nichts vom oben genannten".

Code:

text.item = {0,number,#} Artikel
text.items = {0,number,#} Artikel

Now it gets really difficult. In English, the noun "item" has a lot of meanings. The same holds true for the German noun "Artikel". If e.g. a shop offers more than 10,000 different items, "Artikel" would be the correct translation for "items". In the context of MinimServer’s use of "item", "Artikel" is for sure the wrong translation.

If I’m not mistaken, clicking "items" in MinimServer shows a large list of all single objects it has recognized. The German translation for a single entry (item) in a list is "Eintrag" (the plural is "Einträge"). Having said that, I don’t think that "Eintrag" is the best possible German translation for "item" in MinimServer, but right now I’m failing to come up with a better translation.

Hopefully other German speakers will chime in here and provide a better translation.

[simoncn]

Thanks very much for this. See my responses below.

(26-05-2020 21:49)BB1 Wrote:  As a native German speaker, I’d like to make a few suggestions regarding the German localisation.

Code:

text.disc = Scheibe {0,number,#}

The German translation for "compact disc" is "Compact Disc". Hence I’d replace "Scheibe" with "Disc". "Scheibe" is only used colloquially if talking about a CD or LP.

I will make this change.

Quote:

Code:

tag.bpm = Schlägen pro Minute

Should be "Schläge pro Minute", but BPM is a well known unit in Germany as well.

Which of these do you think is better?

Quote:

Code:

text.none_of_above = [nichts von oben]

I’m not sure in what context this is being used in MiminServer, but if is similar to an answer option in a multiple-choice question, I’d suggest "nichts vom oben genannten".

It is used when files have multiple values for a tag. For example, you might have files with the following Genre tags:

File 1:
GENRE=Rock
GENRE=Disco

File 2:
GENRE=Rock
GENRE=Metal

File 3:
GENRE=Rock

If you select Rock for Genre, you will see three more sub-choices for Genre:

Disco
-- shows file 1
Metal
-- shows file 2
[none of above]
-- shows file 3

Quote:

Code:

text.item = {0,number,#} Artikel
text.items = {0,number,#} Artikel

Now it gets really difficult. In English, the noun "item" has a lot of meanings. The same holds true for the German noun "Artikel". If e.g. a shop offers more than 10,000 different items, "Artikel" would be the correct translation for "items". In the context of MinimServer’s use of "item", "Artikel" is for sure the wrong translation.

If I’m not mistaken, clicking "items" in MinimServer shows a large list of all single objects it has recognized. The German translation for a single entry (item) in a list is "Eintrag" (the plural is "Einträge"). Having said that, I don’t think that "Eintrag" is the best possible German translation for "item" in MinimServer, but right now I’m failing to come up with a better translation.

The list of items contains single objects (track files) and it also contains groups (a group contains a number of closely related track files, like the movements of a symphony). The word 'item' was chosen as a generic term to cover both these cases and possibly additional cases in the future.

[lyapounov]

In the french version, you use the word "Chanson", which means a "Song" (or a "Lied" in german), and I don't think this is what you mean, unless you have a specific parameter for Fauré Poulenc or Reynaldo Hahn ;-)

The english version just says View all, but view all what ?, so I can't really help

Maybe you mean "Track", which is "Piste" ?

[simoncn]

Thanks very much for this. Actually, the English menu selections translated as "chansons" do not mention songs and should be more generic than this, perhaps "View everything" and "Show everything". What should these be in French?

[BB1]

(26-05-2020 22:33)simoncn Wrote:  Which of these do you think is better?

Personally, I’d prefer "BPM". Ask two people and you’ll get at least three answers.

(26-05-2020 22:33)simoncn Wrote:  It is used when files have multiple values for a tag. For example, you might have files with the following Genre tags:

File 1:
GENRE=Rock
GENRE=Disco

File 2:
GENRE=Rock
GENRE=Metal

File 3:
GENRE=Rock

If you select Rock for Genre, you will see three more sub-choices for Genre:

Disco
-- shows file 1
Metal
-- shows file 2
[none of above]
-- shows file 3

"[nichts vom oben genannten]" would be a correct translation in this context, but it’s IMO a rather bulky one. I’d prefer "[nichts davon]" instead. The former is a more literal translation than the latter and would preserve "above". If translating "nichts davon" back to English it would be something like "none of this", but if a German says "nichts davon" in this context, it can only refer to something said or written before. Therefore literally translating "above" isn’t needed in this case. "nichts davon" implies that it relates to the items shown above.

(26-05-2020 22:33)simoncn Wrote:  The list of items contains single objects (track files) and it also contains groups (a group contains a number of closely related track files, like the movements of a symphony). The word 'item' was chosen as a generic term to cover both these cases and possibly additional cases in the future.

I’d suggest "Titel" (singular and plural are the same). In German "Titel" is a more generic term than "Satz" (German translation of "movement"). E.g. we say "Titelliste" if talking about a tracklist of an album, even if it only contains classical music. No one says "Satzliste". However, "Titel" isn’t as generic as "items" is. "Eintrag" would be a more generic term, but for a native speaker it sounds strange in this context.

[lyapounov]

(27-05-2020 15:40)simoncn Wrote:  Thanks very much for this. Actually, the English menu selections translated as "chansons" do not mention songs and should be more generic than this, perhaps "View everything" and "Show everything". What should these be in French?

I would say "Tout voir"

It litteraly mean "see everything", while the english says "display everything"

(It is funny that, in french, a watch is "une montre" which means to show :-)

The subject and the object are frequently interverted between french and English...

[simoncn]

Thanks very much!

The English user interface has two different menu selections:

Show all
View all

I think "Tout voir" is "View all". What should "Show all" be?

[lyapounov]

(27-05-2020 20:51)simoncn Wrote:  Thanks very much!

The English user interface has two different menu selections:

Show all
View all

I think "Tout voir" is "View all". What should "Show all" be?

First, to be sure I understand: "show all" (or display all) and "view all" seem, to me, exactly the same act, but one from the point of view of the program (the program displays all), or from the user (the users sees all)

Display all would litterally be translated in "Tout afficher"

It goes back to my mention about the object "a watch" (in english: the user watch the time), while in french it is "une montre" (the object displays the time)

FYI, one of my companies is designing web site. They told me that when translating from english to french, all fields are, as an average, 30% bigger in terms of number of chars...

[simoncn]

"Display all" sounds right, so I will go with "Tout voir" and "Tout afficher". Thanks very much for this!